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5/20/2006 - The Oriskany on a Single AL 80?

Posted in Personal Diving

 

 the answer is, it depends.  to the top of the structure

at 70 feet?  sure.  to the flight deck at 140 feet?  it'd be a

waste of time.

 

 let's do some air planning:

 

using my SAC (surface air consumption) rate of .8 cf per minute

at 1 ATA, this is what comes out:


descent gas: getting down to 140 feet (at 50 fpm): 9 cf.


rock bottom gas (enough air to get me and my buddy

to the surface should he have a total air failure):


2 minutes at 140 fsw to sort the problem: 16cf
1 minute to ascend to 110 fsw: 9 cf
1 minute to ascend to 80 fsw: 7 cf
1 minute to ascend to 50 fsw: 6 cf
1 minute to ascend to 30 feet: 4 cf
1 minute stop at 30 feet: 3 cf
1 minute ascent to 20 feet: 3 cf
1 minute stop at 20 feet: 3 cf
1 minute ascent to 10 feet: 3 cf
3 minute stop at 10 feet: 6 cf


total rock bottom gas: 60 cf.

 

total descent and reserve gas: 69 cf.

that leaves me 11 cf to actually use at 140 feet on an AL 80,

which for me is shy of a 3 minute dive (i.e. not gonna happen).

to dive to the max of my NDL with 26% O2 at 140 feet (10 minutes),

I'd need an additional 31 cf (for a total of 42 cf bottom gas).

so, to make a dive to 140 feet for 10 minutes, i'd need a minimum

of 111 cf. that suggests a steel 120 tank.

of course, that doesn't even address whether i'd want to go down

to 140 feet on nitrox to begin with (being a narcosis wus).

 

let's be safe out there!

 

 

   
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5/20/2006 - Agree

Posted by santafejoe
Your 100% right about that.
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5/20/2006 - Holy cow!

Posted by BlowinBubbles
That's alot of math.

So say you are one of those...GASP...solo divers? And you have to rely on yourself to get yourself safely down and back. I know...scary concept...self reliance. (Just for the sake of argument...let's just say.) And say you feel like...based on Boyle's law...you will make a 60 feet per minute ascent back to 60 feet or so...which was what I was taught in my deep classes. What's the math then? :)

Well I personally will dive the Oriskany this summer on my tanks, which are steel 100 cf. Which I find preferable to an AL80.

I agree with safety...but I also think you can dive to that depth, given a decent SAC, safely and enjoy it while you do it. I know you may disagree, and certainly respect your right to do so. But I plan to come back safely from the deck at 140 fsw with a trip report in July. Cheers!
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5/22/2006 - Well said H2Andy

Posted by voodooconstant
We should be doing these calcs every dive. I wonder if everyone did, if they'd do the dives they do.

I'd go down to the island on a single, however I'd not head down to the deck. Gas aside, its beyond my skill at the moment. Thats another check everyone needs to make. :D

Safe diving.
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6/8/2006 - Untitled Comment

Posted by limeyx
Generally, I'm not going below 100 feet on a single tank of any volume, and not on air or nitrox either.

and yes, diving would be better if people did these calculations before hopping in, but it seems a lot of people have a very casual attitude toward safety when diving (which unless they can breathe water seems odd)
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